![]() ![]() We trust each other’s instincts and ways of talking about things. … It’s layer upon layer of complexity added to the process, and we’re both part of those decisions. And then we go into the land of color, which is so deep and wonderful, and explore how the design changes because of that, and then we talk about scale. Then Kelly may draw it out, and she’ll give it to me, and then the computer magic happens, and she helps me refine it. Or even if we don’t know at the moment, it’s something that we can come back to. Yes, we will carry on with this idea and see it to fruition. Something happens that I can’t necessarily describe-an energy exchange that’s an unsaid pact that we make. You can tell when the energy’s not there. It’s definitely a conversation, and then we tend to get each other excited about something, and if we feel that energy spark between each other, we go after it. What is your process for working together? Wallpaper and pattern designs specifically. What three things influence your design the most? … Product design, any kind of design, graphic design, architecture-those are all born of some kind of prompt based on the material world and needs, whereas art comes from a more immaterial, spiritual place. I guess I separate design from art, with the problem-solving aspect. That’s why we make design work, and try to make things better and clearer and more beautiful and surprising and delightful-all the things that you want to better your surroundings or better the world that we live in in a way that makes sense to us.ĭesign is always solving a problem, and doing so to the best of your ability and experience and history. … I think I’ve been chasing after that feeling since then. … said the most profound thing to me at the time: ‘Is it true, and is it beautiful?’ That was so simple and perfect for me to hear, because I wanted it to be this analytical, heady thing. One night I was like, ‘What is art? What do I think good art is?’ It was a question that scared me because I had never asked that question in art school. I remember having a conversation with Kelly, because when you’re in your mid- to late-twenties, you’re asking yourself big questions. It’s hard to answer those questions without seeming disingenuous. In a room.’ We’re in the middle of having to write statements about things, so we’re having to speak truthfully and say things that we’re passionate about but not in platitudes. What was the really dumb thing I read yesterday? ‘Design is a way of life and how it makes you feel. We’ve gotten to the point where we want to introduce products as another stable revenue stream so that we can devote time to bigger, more impactful projects. The way we started was a way to make our artwork and large-scale work with no overhead. ![]() We wanted to start this business and be artists and work for ourselves, and that necessitated us working on commercial projects and connecting with people who needed us to solve visual problems for them. How did you find your way to your design process? ![]()
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